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Goat pregnancy feed ration change in the last 6 weeks

Pregnancy food ration change for dairy goats

Changing feed ration from jr. doe or dry doe to milker, in the last 6 weeks of pregnancy:

in the last 6 weeks of pregnancy:

Dry does will change from 1lb per day to 4lbs per day in the last 6 weeks

Week 6: feed 1.5 lbs per day – about 2 and ¼ cups per feeding

Week 5: feed 2 lbs per day- about 3 cups per feeding

Week 4: feed 2.5 lbs per day – about 3 and ¾ cup per feeding

Week 3: feed 3 lbs per day – about 4.5 cups per feeding

Week 2: feed 3.5 lbs per day – about 5 and ¼ cups per feeding

Week 1: feed 4 lbs per day – about 6 cups per feeding

The last 3 days of your does pregnancy you may want

To cut the ration back to 3 cups per feeding for 3 days to prevent flag.

Flag is when a does udder fills in to quickly and becomes tight and really

Firm and it swells preventing the milk supply from being fully expressed.

After the doe kids you can up her food back to the 6 cup per feeding ( 4lb ) ration again.

My Alpine feeding chart and Supply list

  1. Thorvin Kelplink
  2. Sea 90 or Himalayan salt on a rope sea 90 link , salt on a rope is at Tractor supply
  3. Wick’s High Copper Mineral or a good similar goat mineral ( I buy mine from a distributor in the south)like this link
  4. Hoof trimmers trimmers link
  5. Andis Clippers andis link
  6. Golden Barrel Unsulphured Black Strap molasses molasses link
  7. Stainless Steel Milk Bucket, I like a 9 quart bucket and a 5 quart for small amounts, I got mine off ebay and a farm store, but they do have cheap ones at Jefferspet pail link
  8. Stainless Steel Milk Strainer
  9. Milk Filters ( I use homemade reusable ones out of Birds Eye Cloth from an Air Force Base)
  10. The Accessible Pet, Equine and Livestock Herbal book link
  11. Braggs apple Cider vinegar , can be bought at the grocery store, make sure it has the “mother”
  12. Rhinehart X-30 dehorner disbudder link
  13. Large scale for weighing babies and adult goats to make sure they are growing well, make sure they weigh enough to breed, and for deworming weights. scale
  14. Milk weighing scale scale link
  15. Navel Clips clips link
  16. Natural Goat Care book link
  17. GI Soother for cocci preventative in baby goats in the spring GI Soother link
  18. Nav-All tincture naval dip link
  19. Cayenne Organic Tincture cayenne link
  20. 30cc nylon syringe with drench tip drencher link
  21. Ewe-ter-N labor help herb link
  22. The Small Scale Dairy book link
  23. I feed a pregnancy herb mix of red raspberry, stinging nettle, and rose hip and get these herbs from Mountain Rose Herbs and feed this the last month of pregnancy. I use chopped herbs not powdered. The goats like it.

Alpine Dairy Goat Feeding Chart Feed all animals these amounts 2x a day

Get a feed bucket, about 2.5 gallon, put in
(Use a 3 to 4 cup scoop)
1 scoop alfalfa pellets
1 scoop whole oats
½ scoop BOSS-Black Oil Sunflower Seeds
1 scoop alfalfa pellets

Mix well, repeat, mix well again

Feed milkers – 6 cups of mix per feeding

does and bucks from 2-3 months the mix in a trough together about ½ cup each of the mix

Feed does and bucks from 4-6 months- 1 cup each of the mix

Feed dry does and young does 6 months and up – 1 ½ cups of the mix

Feed bucks not in rut- 1 ½ cup of mix

Feed bucks in rut- 3 cups of mix- they are in rut Sept. to Feb.

Also feed a high quality goat mineral and Organic Thorvin Kelp regularly or free choice, Sea 90 or Himalayan salt and forage or hay free choice.
Keep in mind everyone feeds something different and different lbs per day as well. I am just showing what I do as a guide for someone new without any idea of where to start. If I had a really heavy milker that could not hold weight well, I would up the food.
Since I came up with this ration and the measurements myself, be aware it was not made up by a scientist. I did however study the calcium to phosphorus ratios of foodstuffs and decided which foods to feed based on what is available here as well. I have the calcium ratio at 1.2 to 1 phosphorus. Also this rations is about 14 percent protein. I have read in my books and goat health articles that 12 percent is the desired amount to be fed to dairy goats if they have free choice alfalfa hay and up to 14 percent if they do not have free choice alfalfa. Mine do not have free choice alfalfa hay, but also half of my ration is alfalfa. This does not go along with the modern idea the more protein the better, but it is healthier for the goats and causes less stress on their system, and mine do well on it. The alfalfa is grown northwest as well, but the whole oats are grown here. When I am upping the food amount during pregnancy in the last 6 weeks, instead of feeding the whole ration the last week I will slack off (feed half a milkers ration) about 4 days before kidding so that the udder does not become real so full so quickly. Flag, meaning hard congested udder that has little milk moving through it, is no fun. In about a three day period I will then up the food daily to be at a full milkers ration by day four. I was using barley and think it was an awesome addition to a goat feeding program however the price and difficulty to get it has made me not use it anymore.

Thoughts on dairy goat breeds

First of all I am very opinionated on things I feel strongly about, and goats is one of them, so this blog may seem very bias, because it is. I have had all dairy breeds except Saanen and can give you my view on each except the Saanen. Nigerian Dwarf have what I call little goat syndrome with a few exceptions and not near enough milk. They can be loud and the ones I had did not get along well with the other goat breeds as easily since they are small and are not boss, but they want too badly to be the boss! Lamanchas are out of the question for me because I love ears on a goat and love the alertness of the erect ears on swiss breeds, they can have nice udders and there milk taste good and they can be good milkers. The craziest goat I have ever seen was a Lamancha and she would literally run sideways on the walls of the barn to get away from you! Nubians that I have had or been around were very loud and I like quiet, I am sure you have your exceptions but I have not seen many. Nubians require more food for the same amount of milk as a swiss breed. The only goat I ever had jump a stall was a nubian, and when I try to drench a nubian they love to spit it back at me instead of swallowing. Also they do not make the regular maaaa noise, they scream, seriously. I had one toggenburg and she had the worst milk I ever tasted, they say this breed needs more vitamin B for better milk taste and there milk is naturally stronger flavored for cheese making but maybe there are some with good milk to drink, just make sure to sample before you buy. She ruined me on Toggs. Next is Oberhasli, the breed I wanted to start out with but I could not find does, as they are not as popular of a breed, and it is hard to find different bloodlines often, and I have been told by a long time breeder that they have to be great a Obershasli to equal a good Alpine udder wise, but the Oberhasli milk taste very sweet and good, and they are very sweet and quiet girls, I do love them. Saved the best for last in my opinion, the alpine. They friendly, sociable, mostly quiet, and good tasting milk and a lot of it, with lots of color variety. I was however informed when I had just started into goats that alpines were crazy, break out of fences, ect. I have never seen this to be true of the many alpines I have owned, nor do any the alpines of alpine breeders I know, do this either. They are a wonderful dairy goat through and through, very classy. They are herd aggressive, meaning they will fight within the herd from time to time to see whom is boss. They do not take much food to make a good amount of milk and udders are usually consistent if you make sure to start of with a good udder in the first place and make sure your buck’s dam’s udder is good too. Make sure that teat placement and size is where you want it and teats are big enough and long enough for good hand milking if that is your plan, ask for tons of pictures. Also I would want to taste the milk of any goat purchased if in milk, as I am sure that all good milk tasting breeds have there exceptions. And remember if your does are with a smelly buck then your milk may not taste good.

A Different Kind Of Breeding Schedule

So it is very apparent that everyone wants to breed does each year to acquire that wonderful fresh goats milk each spring. This is the way that most people want to breed because this is what everyone does. I am going to experiment this next few years with a different kind of breeding program idea, breeding every other year and milking through. My plan is to milk a couple through the winter without breeding them and to dry them us as we are weaning there babies at 5 months old. So they would milk until about July of the next year. This will give them about 7 to 8 months off every other year from milking, with 2 to 3 months of that being free of milking AND pregnancy. This is all going to be very dependent of how the doe is milking when breeding season arrives and if I think she will stay in milk through winter. If she is drying up by October then I will breed ber. I have noticed this season to be the determining factor, if they can milk through breeding season fine they will probably milk through all winter fine as well. This kind of breeding schedule is supposed to increase their length of life and quality of health. I will keep this post updated over the next few years to let you know if it works here or not and how the does perform for better or for worse.

Update: I have done this a few years now and love it. Not all my does will do it, but some will. They do not make as much during the winter but we have at least a little fresh milk daily and I am very pleased to have it.

Proven Alpine Bloodlines

Quality Alpine Bloodlines: Be aware these are certainly not the only nice herds to choise from, these are the ones with easy to find wwbsites. Keep in mind I have only researched most of these farms and not been there personally, so I do not know if all of their stock is of equal value, but they at least have some stock that looks very ideal, having traits that I would like to see in my herd. Some of these herds are no longer active.

Amy’s Pride

Angel –Prairie

Artesian Valley


Black Wing



Buffalo Trace

Cat Walk

Chateau Briant’s


Cherry Glen

Cherry Hill


Cob Cottage


Dixie Does


Golden Rule


Heavenly Hooves

Hill N Holler



Hollow Point



Iron Rod

Jordan Valley

Kara Kahl

Kickapoo Valley

La Paysanne

Land O’ I AM


Maple Wind




Moore’s Pond Farm

Mountain Star








P J Bailey’s



Pleasant Grove

Rainbow Colors

Redwood Hills

Regal Katahn


Sand Dance



Shining Moon

Sodium Oaks

Soldier Mountian

Spinning Spider

Split Creek


Sun Rising



Sycamore Acres

Tempo Aquila

Terra Dell


Tonka Trails

Udder Way

Van Vyk Acres

Walnut Fork

Windrush Farms


Goat milk compared to Cows Milk

So, if you have visited my farm you know how much we all LOVE the goats milk. It is sweeter, easy on your stomach, and much easier to extract for the milker (me), yeah. I am not going to type out all of the benefits but instead add links that say it much better than me that have scientific facts to help you understand as well. I have read a lot about it and believe that goat milk is better for easier digestion. When I was young I remember milk would make my stomach very upset so I did not drink it for a very long period of my life. Of course, it was not fresh, that stuff they sell with the red lid on it at the store I have come to realize is not really milk, at least not the kind I would willingly drink on purpose. I started milking the goats for my children to have milk and strong bones, but I quickly realized that this new milk did not hurt my stomach and was really kind of sweet and yummy and made me want more, I was impressed. I have a good friend that I had a Jersey cow that I milked a couple times and I wanted to do a side by side blind taste test, with my goat’s milk and her cow’s milk. We were having a meeting and three women all did the test. Even my friend whom drinks her cows milk daily guessed the wrong one. So if you will notice goats milk simply taste like milk. I always want guest to taste the goats milk so that they too can see that it is good and no reason to shy from this awesome product. People have a funny hesitant fetish about trying it sometimes, I don’t understand. I especially don’t understand if we have just visited the goats and you see how clean they are and there is no large poop stain of their side or big pile of manure between their hoof claws, goats are soooo!!! clean compared to cows. Now, I am sure if they saw the confinement dairies that the cows milk from the store comes from they may just change their mind, I hope anyway. I have a cow that I started milking when the goats milk was done for the winter and it took a little adjustment to get used to as I do not like the taste as much, and I can not drink as much without feeling too full. But it is still not a painful experience, like the milk from the carton is. I wanted the cow for butter and that was the big purpose of me milking cows. I do understand that people do not like the goat milk or products from the store, they are just as different as night and day to the fresh milk and milk products from a home dairy. Also if you leave your buck with your does your milk will likely taste like BUCK, you do not want this. Put old stinky out back and not with your does if you have a problem with your milk being for good drinking. Milking a cow is something your hands will have to build up to for a while, since it takes a while to milk out that much milk at one time. I can usually milk a goat that makes 3/4 of a gallon in the morning in about 3 minutes. This is why you want to breed for good teat size and good orifice size( where the milk comes out). With cows or goats you will not start out that fast but you will build up hand strengh and technique within a few weeks if you stick with it. Milking goats is one of my favorite things to do, milking cows was sadly not, so I no longer own them.

Ok, now onto some links:

Goat milk benefits

milk differences

goat, sheep, and cow milk comparison that is just funny

milk comparison

Of course their is much more information out there, but experiencing it for yourself is so much better. I did meet a goat meat breeder and brought a sample of our milk for him to sample and he said he was highly allergic to milk. But he was curious if he could handle goats milk as one of his relatives had previously told him to try it before. So he took the jar and turned away from us before he tried it, he said it would make him projectile vomit immediately. So I stepped back and wandered if it would affect him in such a way. About 30 seconds or less later he turned back to us ecstatic and thrilled and was so happy that he could indeed tolerate this milk, and said he was going to have his wife make ice cream with it. He loved ice cream and had not been able to eat it for a long time. I was pleased, to say the least.